(stroke recognition does not work well for me, but it is not worse than the old FR910XT). Either all of the stupid default settings are needed (move IQ? Finally, there’s the extremely rare reference track failure. As such, I am a bit reluctant to spend $250 on the Garmin 2… On the fenix 3 i have a single field with the lap/length counter as my main display. Terribly slow BT syncing compared to the 935. Would have been useful to see more about bike and run activities… Are they any good? I’m interested myself as despite having just got an AW5, I’m deeply paranoid about smashing it on a lane rope or someone else’s wrist in a congested pool. It’s just the distance computation. No Pay. Not even an ice cream after the OWS at the beach? You NEED to keep the watch above water as much as possible, never leave below surface for more than 2-3 seconds, so if you do breaststroke you should be super careful where you put your hands. If yes, is it possible to import the corrected file anywhere? – no page personalization for bike and run mode In other words, that piece actually works just fine for the Swim 2. Actually I had forgot Garmin doesn’t even show lap times at all for pool swim. Set Time. I am not sure how I managed to get it work. Sure I don’t have a Swim2 but based on DCR’s review and the fact that it’s a new Garmin with the same chip as my F6X Pro Solar I am positive that GPS problems lie in the swim style. I ordered a new Apple Watch S6 yesterday, which seems to be a way better swim watch than the Swim 2, in addition to the many other things it does. I too would like to reach that goal. At the first stroke. Still, it’s easy and simple. Given they track some great metrics (the best at it IMO), this is really just a matter of software development in Garmin Connect to plot the metrics over time. Filip that is weird! Thanks! Yup, that’s exactly it. Unfortunately the basic swimming metrics/features “auto stroke detection” and “stroke count” are (in the pool) in my experience not as accurate as with the original/old Garmin Swim. I burned through 3 Garmin swim watches in the past 10 years, they all failed a few weeks after replacing the battery. Laps does not appear when I do a pool swim, which leads me to believe a software or firmware update is needed? Yes, the watch is able to record proper distance and track in OW. Garmin Connect Mobile doesn’t show this bug. Garmin has too many watches IMO, but not enough options. Looking at the tracks, I think the swim2 was more accurate. Underwater the GPS signal disappears very fast, there is no magic software to solve this. This is to prevent water from jiggling it up and down or at an angle on your wrist, affecting the sensor’s contact with the skin. I can see a good use case for waiting for your heart rate to decrease to a certain level before starting the next set rather than just basing it on a fixed rest time. You can customize which of these pages are shown or not shown, and most of them allow you to open them for further details. My old FR910XT still does all the work, but I have issues with the vibration alerts, and also the OW track (esp. • Select Auto Rest to enable the device to automatically detect when you are resting and create a rest interval (Auto Rest). The display size compared to the huge border wastes half of the usable space. However, since your definition of “lap” seems to be a multiple of the pool length, you can very easily compute the “lap” time yourself, by adding up those consecutive lengths. The watches don’t even show the lap time for 100m during swim, like both Suunto and Polar watches do! In my case, during some swimming sessions I notice big jumps in HR after which the HR never comes back down, although my swimming routing does not correlate with that. Hovering the mouse over any of them shows info about that lap. It cannot connect to running footpods, cycling sensors, or any other type of sensors. Oh, and finally, as always, I use devices like wilderness trails – leave nothing behind. if my MARQ doesn’t get it I’d be a little sad, when you say Fenix 6, I assume you mean MARQ too? Lots of data (except that the TICKR-X is currently shooting blanks, so no data there). So I bought the watch (jippie!). I’m very surprised my main brand of watch can’t do this 🙁 I can get an “Alert” for 100m but without any info about stats. The other thing is, that you can have correct distance with the older software versions with some tricks: Overall the swimming trend analyses are still lacking from Garmin – obviously get nothing like the training & performance over time analyses that they have for running & cycling. However now I am almost completely sure that some watches have massive hardware problems, maybe yours too. Well, that’s not terribly conclusive either. Hi, thanks for review. And while I occasionally walk/run/hike, I do not want to pay for all the bells-and-whistles that a multi-sport watch has that I never use. I simply use interval lengths field instead, that shows the correct lap count for the interval. The Garmin Swim 2 is all about tracking you in the water, and be it pool or open water swimming, it's a top quality GPS swimming watch that offers plenty of data. What is really needed is a comparison of the Swim 2 with a chest strap monitor designed for in water use such as the Garmin-Swim or Garmin-TRI. Poolmate 2 is a very cheap basic watch that would be perfect as a starting point to measure laps, strokes, pace, sets and rest times but will also track some metrics in the open water (a new addition that came with the second version of the watch). I did find Garmin more intuitive to use than Suunto and also easier to read while on the go. One question, is the open water interface and functionality identical on the Fenix 6? I made an overlay of the two watches’ maps from my last swim, using phone screenshots. Heart Rate Fields: Heart Rate (current), Average HR (whole workout), HR Zone, Aerobic Training Effect, Anaerobic Training Effect, HR %Max, % Heart Rate Reserve, Avg. It will both buzz and well as make this bird in a blender chirping sound. So, you’ve convinced me to get this watch soon. I asked Runkeeper about this and they replied, and I even got a free premium sub for 3 months since I was so disappointed by their answer lol 🙂 And once you go, it’ll start the next set. Also, the original Swim 1 just used a coin-cell battery that lasted forever in your swim bag (like, many many months). If anyone has a different answer feel free to add info 🙂. I always push the start/pause slightly underwater each interval. The only thing holding me back from the new Swim is NFC payment and music. No Pay. Actually it is again some highly advertised bullshit. I am beginning to suspect it could be a lane that isn’t exactly 25 yards, if that factors into how laps are calculated. I’d love to see Garmin tackle this aspect of the market, as frankly, if they did, I’d consider adding a small endless pool to the DCR Cave. “almost no other GPS units would actually pass this test” implies that some do pass the test? In fact, with a two week old newborn in the house, I’m impressed with how well it’s handling that. BUT, and it is a very big but now for me…. Would be good to see on female wrist as well. Garmin swim 2 includes advanced features for timed sets and logging drills, and a new Auto rest feature makes it ideal for all swim levels. If you do OWS you will get (automatic) laps in Garmin watches, but not for indooor swimming. Using drill mode I lose stroke rate data, and drills also don’t parse well into Strava/Training Peaks or even Garmin Connect itself. FREE GROUND SHIPPING ON ORDERS $25 AND UP. Same exact swim as last week, which recorded double distance (3800m) on two occasions prior to installing the beta firmware. A very clear and informative review. Still, 245 leaves the impression of being the more rounded, higher quality object. We’ve got a big community of open water swimmers here in NZ who are in the ocean pretty much 365 days a year – I can lots of them being very interested in this. I’ve had good luck with swim length accuracy, and no false laps in any of my sets. On the other hand, bluetooth connection is slow, BT sync takes 10-15 minutes, changing downloaded watch face settings gets timeout. It surprised me as last time between the release of beta and new official version there was nearly a month, but now they released the official version just after one week! There are various tools online which can read this and can show you everything you need, including pace (which is what I presume you mean by cadence). I have 735xt and it is excellent for both pool and open water. Thanks for the wonderful review. There’s no auto-rest functionality in open water. Though I’ve also been absurdly lucky in my pool swims lately to only share the line with 0 or 1 other persons, which is a significant drop from the dozen+ people I’d often get in other lanes/pools. Looked in Garmin connect to see if you can add a value manual laready now but didn´t find anything so I would assume that the setting is only in the watch at the moment…. Oh, and in case you’re curious, that single random 40m blip in the middle is correct. (and pool size on apple watch was set to 25m), so no average pace per laps in the pool swimming on Garmin. I am new to the smartwatch world. Sadly, it doesn’t show the lap time … even though it could be deduced (divide by 4). 945 when updated. This essentially is like Garmin’s Auto Pause in Running/Cycling, but for the pool. Hope it helps – I have been swimming (pool only) with a Polar (Vantage M) with a screen protector – no problem at all. With that in mind, it’s incredible to me that Garmin has/had so many issues with the open water swimming on the 945 while they were actively developing the Swim2. Though, technically the unit does support five sports in total: Pool Swim, Open Water Swim, Run, Bike, and Cardio (Indoor). From an openwater swim perspective, things are working super well for me. This is my Garmin, shows the lengths’ times and data. Or, as the internet would say: “You had one job.” And thankfully, it appears that it nails that single job. It sounds like those features are set to be added to some existing 2019 Garmin watches as well, but no timeframes yet. I would be very interested in a comparison between the Swim2 heart rate and the heart strap (which one is it exactly? I’ve had to create duplicate workouts for 25 yard & 50 meter pools and hope these updates fix that. Thanks! Any chance of getting a size comparison with other Garmins? When uploading a run from the Garmin Swim 2 to Strava, is the elevation stat completed? To me, Garmin needs a very simple price to feature base-lining system that they actually stick with. It’ll simply replace the optical HR swim data automatically. Regards. A watch like this one use an accelerator and gyroscope, and for a new lap the watch actually looks for a hard push off the wall (and some glide) before strokes resume, in terms of acceleration and orientation. Today I used my Swim 2 for a bike ride for the first time. It appeared to cause some minor confusion for the GPS. I should have seen this. I have the SWIM2 for test and I am impressed. For regular watch faces, the only thin you can customize of course is the accent (on Swim 2). (The 735XT is one of only two Garmins that doesn’t have a barometer.) "Garmin Swim Watch". I returned my first Swim 2 for a replacement because it was wildly inaccurate with distance (nearly double), even though the GPS track looked accurate on the map. Price-wise it feels perhaps a touch bit high, especially with the $250 price point. And, I’d say they’re fairly close. 5 seconds? With a battery life spanning from 72 hours in training mode to up to 7 days in Smartwatch mode. Still searching for the root cause, reported to Garmin. Do they still have the feature* where they convert pool swims (in yards) to miles in the total distance field when you hit the 3.1 mile mark? Here’s this morning’s swim comparing a Polar Vantage M to the Garmin Swim 2, both optical HR sensors (sorry, no chest strap, forgot that): Well hey there! Just my 2cent, for me this definition war causing headache…, Hi Jen’s – In the United States most competitive swimmers use the term “Lap” and “length” interchangeably, instead of Lap meaning “there and back”. Is the auto pause features coming down to the fenix (6) line ? Whereas on the web (screenshot in previous comment) you can see the 100m pace per length. it looks like everybody is very excited with the auto pause. You can silence these at night using either the do not disturb function on your phone or on the watch itself. For open water swim you can configure auto lap 100m as you can for all other outdoor activities, but this is not the case for pool swim and Garmin. Thank you Ray. Thanks for a great review. It’s a deal-breaker for me. Any ideas? Is the garmin swim 2 better for swimming than the 735xt is , I’m curious. Garmin Garmin. During swimming I have no idea what my actual heartrate does, and nothing to campare it to. I am VERY happy to hear of a SWIM only Garmin with GPS, because I can return my Garmin 735XT to my (runner/biker) wife after I gave it to her, then stole it back. Darn, darn darn! I bought a new 735xt and it died pool swimming and Garmin said ” well you can’t push the start/pause button underwater and referred me to the manual ! On the contrary, the garmin swim which I’ve been using for a couple of years, and is still used by my wife for a similar swimming volume pretty much keeps working perfectly. At every stop it found the signal, and made a straight line between the two points. Garmin Swim 2, GPS Swimming Smartwatch for Pool and Open Water, Underwater Heart Rate, Records Distance, Pace, Stroke Count and Type, Slate Gray $199.99 Get the deal it looks like everybody is very excited with the auto pause. I like to see when the water temperature changes. And it can even track your run, ride, or gym workout. I find that lagged about 3-4 seconds in almost every case. blue = Fenix 5. Although i have been having some tracking accuracy issues of late- my standard 6k run coming out WAY more than 6k, for example.. Got to say huge kudos to Polar for showing Garmin that swim sessions could be better and finally giving them some features to copy. Operating System. Can you send me the link where he makes that statement as the attached comparison I just made on garmin.com doesn’t indicate auto-rest on the 945 and 6. If you have a 50m pool, it’s just 50m – not 100m (to return to start). If you’re familiar with Garmin wearables then honestly you can skip this section. So, yes, this is a universal “feature”. The mobile Garmin Connect app allows you to edit only the total distance (and I don’t recommend it, it then recomputes the average pace against the total time rather than swim time … surely this is a bug). I’m happy to say I haven’t seen it in any of my openwater swims to date. Good luck with the next swim and keep us updated 🙂. Once you’re done with your swim, you’ll press the pause button, and then press it again to stop. Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. Thanks again for your stellar work on reviews. Funny you should mention 20mins for 1000m btw. Does the watch have a HR broadcast capability ? Garmin Support Center is where you will find answers to frequently asked questions and resources to help with all of your Garmin products. The Apple Watch actually didn’t record a single HR value the entire time? Here’s a listing of all the data metrics you can use within your data fields above: Timer Fields: Timer, Swim Time, Interval Time, Elapsed Time They add a lot of fancy functions, what are not needed at all, but forget to handle the important parts – like for a swimming watch the swimming option. time x 100m) for open water as well? Whereas this new one is more akin to a typical connected smartwatch that you’ll need to recharge every week depending on usage (official claim is 7 days smartwatch mode, 13 hours GPS-on mode, and 72 hours of pool swimming time with optical HR). Ok…umm…what about the TICKR-X? The price here is, in my opinion, for R&D to make a very effective swim watch. At least better than no calories estimation for drills. Yes, for real: The Garmin Swim is back, baby. Do you think the excellent accuracy you reported in the review depends on you swimming a stroke where hour as.s comes up and out of the water regularly, every second or two? My son is a 14 y old competitive swimmer and I would like to surprise him with a swim watch, unfortunately I am not at all tech savvy. I suspect the main reason the Fenix 5 and other watches previous is that it’s a different optical sensor. IE how well they pick up the satellites after being under water for a minute or two. Should I buy the Garmin Swim 2 or a Polar Vantage M? My Fenix 6Pro also seems to put the last GPSed workout location as the location of my pool swims. I also found that putting the watch on my other wrist makes stroke style detection much better. The watch will track your steps and general wandering around activity using the accelerometer (it also has GPS too, but that’s for workouts specifically).  You can see your step totals on most of the watch faces, but also on the steps widget, which you can then dive into for more details: Or, you can crack open the Garmin Connect Mobile smartphone app, which shows all your step data in numerous slice and diceable ways: Note that the Garmin Swim 2 doesn’t have a barometric altimeter in it, and thus doesn’t track stairs climbed. Which is basically like saying ‘I don’t want to hear when you’ve detected my stroke wrong because I just don’t care’. Is the light adjustable? It looks like a watch released seven years ago. thanks for this detailed review. Did anyone try that? C) Per entire workout (self-explanatory), I think some of it might actually come from the wording. 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